Curse

Tien ak · Jul 17, 2006, 08:29 AM // 08:29

Hey all sent a few emails to Arena net and they don't seem to be getting the message that this is a big pain in arse for us FoW warriors that have to farm alll over again to get our armor back to being usefull.

The reason for this vote is the fact that this so called "bug" that was going on since day 1 was never addressed and as no one can 100% say it was bug at the time this is unfair agasint people who have spend loads of money on FoW armor.

My vote is to allow fow warriors to send a screen shot of their inventory showing that they own the boots...or wherever you put knights on and for Arena net to change it to an armor stat of your choice.

I don't see why fow warriors are getting punished beacuse arena nets testers got lazy, there has been many useless updates for example the shiro mini pet update.

please don't put "get over it" or "go farm" posts this is just for FoW warriors who don't want to go ecto and shard farming or do that very hard quest again.

Farrell-Zander · Jul 17, 2006, 08:33 AM // 08:33

Well maybe its not the same but I've got 15k Kurzick and thats not that cheap either. Maybe it's cheap to you but not to other people. If they allow you to do that with FoW they should allow it for all armors.... just my 2 cents

Avarre · Jul 17, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37

And why only warriors, when it wasn't just them that encounter this?

Regardless, I don't care either way, so /abstain

squan · Jul 17, 2006, 08:42 AM // 08:42

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Originally Posted by Farrell-Zander

Well maybe its not the same but I've got 15k Kurzick and thats not that cheap either. Maybe it's cheap to you but not to other people. If they allow you to do that with FoW they should allow it for all armors.... just my 2 cents

Well you are right 15K kurzic or luxon is not cheap, but still you can not compare it to fow armor. its way, way cheaper. btw its easy to get the crafting material, just farm for faction points and you get the expensive crafting materials for free. Ecto you must farm and you need 105 shards and ecto + other materials.
its way more work to get fow armor. In my oppinion there should be a difference in armor stats.
1500 gold armor with basic stats
15k armor with bonus stat
Fow armor with 2 bonus stats

I got 2 sets of fow armor (monk and necro) and i am almost rdy for a third set of fow. but i do this because i like the skin. but its not fair that fow armor has the same stats then 15k armor or 1500 gold armor. there should be a difference in armor.

ilovecp · Jul 17, 2006, 08:52 AM // 08:52

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Originally Posted by squan

but its not fair that fow armor has the same stats then 15k armor or 1500 gold armor. there should be a difference in armor.

ummmm no. the purpose of having it is purely cosmetic - not so that you can be stronger than anyone else.

sLiceR · Jul 17, 2006, 10:13 AM // 10:13

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Originally Posted by squan

but its not fair that fow armor has the same stats then 15k armor or 1500 gold armor. there should be a difference in armor.

well that would be against the core concept of gw: "skill > time spent grinding"

/signed the request of the OP

Tien ak · Jul 17, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04

Thanks for the support but just to answer some questions people have asked.

Avarre the reason with warriors only is beacuse it was the only armor that was changed recently if other updates chaged other armors beacuse of a "bug" that was in the game for a year then I would support it all the way.

And to Farrell-Zander like squan said its cheaper but I havn't gone into cantha yet so I don't know the prices but im preety sure the boots won't take you 2 months of farming or cost you 200k if you know what I mean.

Thanks for the /signs keep going please this is going to Arena net so other FoW warriors who have been threw the same dilema can just change their boots to glads or whatever...oh and I mean this will be one time only (obviously) this is not some scam to make us god characters or anything like that just to give us a break and compensate us for our hard work.

Nikki Moonlight · Jul 17, 2006, 11:11 AM // 11:11

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Originally Posted by Tien ak

Avarre the reason with warriors only is beacuse it was the only armor that was changed recently if other updates chaged other armors beacuse of a "bug" that was in the game for a year then I would support it all the way.

The mesmer armour with +15 armour while casting was changed too, thus Avarre going on about it

Farrell-Zander · Jul 17, 2006, 11:15 AM // 11:15

Well I'll sign for this anyway :P But to new people even 15k armor is expensive, but I dont mind I've got the money

/signed

Pkest · Jul 17, 2006, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Let's face it - FOW armor is just for standing around in town showing off. You can fix the boots by grabbing a new set with whatever stats for 1.5k and then just throw on the old ones when you want to pose in town.

/not signed

Gizmo Loco · Jul 17, 2006, 01:16 PM // 13:16

/signed

However, what about the people who were affected by it but chanegd it already?

Avarre · Jul 17, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

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Originally Posted by Grim Weeper

The mesmer armour with +15 armour while casting was changed too, thus Avarre going on about it

Precisely. Though I knew it was going to be changed at some point so I went full enchanter with my obsidian

Still /no opinion

MMSDome · Jul 17, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

im gonna have top say:

/not signed

I already rebought 15k platemail gauntlets because of the nerf. FoW is a luxory item and it was your choice to buy it and someone with droks armor should get the same chance to redo their armor as someone with FoW. You having fow armor doesnt make you special so you get free changes, your going to have to pay like evryone else.

Loki Seiguro · Jul 17, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

/signed

i had to go thorugh again spending about 1 million k+ for my new set.......

personally anet just hasnt been doing to good with anything. i dont think ill buy guild wars 3 unless i see some changes...

MMSDome thats true but then again we spent more time then anhyone else for our armor and for all that to go to waste is...not good.... and yes people that bought the less expensive armor should have a chance to change as well but as many have said before 15k and 1.5k armor is too expensive as most of the mats cvan be crafted for 20g ea. so unless they allow crafting of ecto and shards...well you get the point

Tuoba Hturt Eht · Jul 17, 2006, 01:56 PM // 13:56

To all those who insist of being able to change the stats of their armor, I invite you all to feast your eyes upon this concept idea:

And please, if you disagree with the idea, or simply wish to bash on it, kindly do it in that thread, not in here.

Thank you.

Essence Armor - Able to change armor stats, runes while in town

Reference Threads:
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07-14-2006 | Sarevok Thordin | Default Armor modification NPC
05-05-2006 | LifeInfusion | Armor modder
06-09-2006 | Pompeyfan | Armour crafter to change stats
05-20-2006 | Cybah | Make FOW armor stats changeable !? (closed thread)
02-17-2006 | Tien_ak | An Idea for armor
01-03-2006 | Unworthy Follower | Better armor.
01-01-2006 | KaptainKrash | Seperate armour look from its ability
11-13-2005 | Siren Danica | Which is more important - armor appearance or stats?
07-26-2005 | Lagg | Bonus for wearing complete armor "set"

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The Concept:
- An Armor that is able to change its: Stats, Runes
- While in towns or outposts.
- Total freedom of armor customization in terms of statistics is not achieved right away
- Takes quite a while to achieve full freedom of customization

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NOTE: Idea has been revised again, but the concept is the same.
- Once again the idea is revised
- Concept remains the same
- Aesthetic aspect has been removed

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Armor Stats / Runes changing drop down menu
[Gladiator's \/] Kurzick Cuirass of [Superior V] [Absorption V]
[Gladiator's \/] Luxon Gauntlets of [Minor \/] [Swordsmanship \/]
[Gladiator's \/] Kurzick Leggings of [Superior \/] [Vigor \/]
[Gladiator's \/] Luxon Boots of [Minor \/] [Strength \/]

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1st Proposed method of implementating this idea:

1. John has a full set of Glads Armor
2. He wants to be able to change armor stats and runes for his full Glads set
2a. He then forms of group of like minded individuals
3. They visits a certain Gods Realm
4. They find a particular NPC in a certain Gods Realm
5. Each purchases a special "Essence Capturing Signet" (ECS) from the NPC
6. They proceeds to complete a quest for this NPC
7. The quests requires them to kill a certain monster
8. They proceed to kill the tough boss and its gang
9. Upon death of the boss, they captured its essence using the ECS
10. A quest item "Essence of <insert name here>" appears in their inventories
11. They return to the NPC to have their armor upgraded
12. They have the following options:

Armor Upgrade Options:
1. Armor Stats
Requires:
- One (1) Essence of <insert name here>
- Reasonable merging fee
- Armor piece to be upgraded

Upgrade:
- Upgraded Armor piece is able to change into the newly selected stats
- Abilty to change back into original stats remains

2. Runes
- One (1) Essence of <insert name here>
- Reasonable merging fee
- Choice of Rune to be merged into Armor
- Armor piece to be upgraded

Upgrade:
- Upgraded Armor piece is able to change into the newly selected rune stats
- Abilty to change back into original rune stats remains

12. John's party will need to exit the God's Realm and re-enter
13. If they wants to do this quest again

Discuss.

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2nd Proposed method of implementating this idea:
- A series of multi-tiered quest exclusive in future chapters
- That would allow our character's Armor to be Essenized
- Gaining the ability to add on different stats
- Change into those armor stats when desired while in towns or outposts
- Also gaining the ability to add in runes
- Change into the functionality of those runes when desired while in towns or outposts

Discuss.

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NOTE: Original Polls is reset, please state again whether you support this idea, or you do not.

Poll
You like the idea of able to change armor stats and runes while your character is in towns or outposts, and would like to see ANET implement something similar. Yes / No

Yes (1)
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Tuoba Hturt Eht

No (0)
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Loviatar · Jul 17, 2006, 02:01 PM // 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pkest

Let's face it - FOW armor is just for standing around in town showing off. You can fix the boots by grabbing a new set with whatever stats for 1.5k and then just throw on the old ones when you want to pose in town.

/not signed

QFT (QUOTED FOR TRUTH)

wear a 1.5k set for work and put on your show off rags before you zone to where someone will see you

Aramaki · Jul 17, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08

It's just hard to believe that an 'elite' warrior who can afford Obsidian armors to be totally ignorant of the global effect exploit, I bet most of you have only the gloves or boots an Ascalon/Knight piece. Now the exploit is no more you demand Anet to replace your Obsidian Ascalon/Knight piece to whatever you fancy? Because it's expensive? Because you are too lazy to farm again? Because it's Anet's fault for not fixing it early?

Hey Anet can I exchange my 15k Kurzick Knight boots too? It's expensive too and it's your fault that you fixed it only now!

Lykan · Jul 17, 2006, 02:48 PM // 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tien ak

My vote is to allow fow warriors to send a screen shot of their inventory showing that they own the boots...or wherever you put knights on and for Arena net to change it to an armor stat of your choice.

Do you have any idea how long that would take?
And if you do it for FoW you have to do it for every set or it would be unfair.
How many Anet man hours would that be?

/Roflnotachanceinhell

Living Legend · Jul 17, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44

/signed
because I can

striderkaaru · Jul 17, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17

you're joking, right?
are you honestly complaining about being "punished"?

do you even know what difference it would make if you switched your boots from knight's to glad? here, let me spell it out for you:

knight's boots: 80 al, +20 vs physical, dmg -3 from physical
glads boots: 80 al, +20 vs physical, energy +1

wow, look at that. same al, same +al vs. physical. so you essentially want to trade a -3 physical dmg (12.5%) for +1 energy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tien ak

to get our armor back to being usefull.

are you really that useless without the +1 energy? you seemed to do fine before.

honestly though, come on, people. stop being sheep and actually learn the game and think.

/unsigned